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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Allan. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>According to your
argument, then Bluetooth would also be incompatible since it requires that any
users of the Bluetooth spec become members of the Bluetooth SIG. The membership
is free at the lowest tier. However there is a Bluetooth Linux project and it
looks like it has been deemed compatible with the GPL. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Akiba</span></font><font color=navy><span
lang=EN-US style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>FreakLabs Open Source Zigbee Project</span></font><font
color=navy><span lang=EN-US style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>http://www.freaklabs.org</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
Hardy, Allan [mailto:allan.hardy@lmco.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:53
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Akiba; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">legal@lists.gpl-violations.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Question regarding
GPL and membership requirements for a standards body</span></font><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>>></span></font><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> The issue is that the GPL requires that software must be
provided free of licensing fees as mentioned in clause 2-c of the GPL v2:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Zigbee terms are not GPL compliant we
agree on that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I respectfully disagree that it is
because of a membership fee. Requiring membership at all is enough to be
in conflict with GPL.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Assume Zigbee membership is free:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>If I took a standard GPL product and
embedded it in my hardware Device what are my GPL requirements? –
Primarily to provide source code for the GPL components.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>If I take a Zigbee embedded in a linux
distro, then put in my device what are my requirements? - To become a
member of Zigbee alliance, to follow what ever additional requirements are put
on members, and to provide source code for GPL components.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The Zigbee terms are not GPL compatible
because it discriminates against a class of users, as example commercial
hardware vendors, it puts additional restrictions on my ability to use the GPL
product, takes away freedoms of use I had, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The fact that it also involves $ is a
secondary issue, imho, not the main issue. Zigbee could drop
their fee to $1 or $0 and it still would be GPL incompatible.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>>></span></font><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> This was the central point in the issue that was discussed
regarding the spec’s compatibility with GPL’d software. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Discussed where? Even if it was
the central point of the discussion, it is not the central point of GPL
incompatibility.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>At least that’s my central
point. : )<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Allan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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