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<p class=MsoPlainText>> So, help me understand, is JFreeChart part of the
GWT binary distribution or not?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>>> Not current versions of GWT, AFAIK. It was never
removed the licensing file.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Well geez, why didn’t you just say the GWT
Licensing documentation was in error? Would have saved me and users in my
company lots of time.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>So under 6b, JFreeChart is not shipped with GWT and is a
'pre-requisite' or expected to be acquired and downloaded/installed by the customer
and GWT will use it if it is there kind of thing.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>I hope 1.6 cleans up such an error and calls out
JFreeChart as a pre-requisite before its productions release.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>>> I'm not sure why you would think this, since it
is incorrect, and this is a commonly understood section.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>>> <span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>But
since we meet "your" viewpoint of this anyway, ...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Meet my viewpoint? As In I am wrong and your right? Wow
now were getting a bit uppity.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Yeah well I'm well aware of the requirements and law as
well so I'd really appreciate it if instead of just claiming I'm wrong and your
right, you'd take a second to explain. It will lead to a much more educated
world. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Just to be clear my whole point is that:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>If you ship binaries for the LGPL Product you have source
obligations. Period. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>I am not talking about shipping a work that uses the LGPL
product, but of shipping the LGPL product itself. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>(which is what GWT documentation led me to believe you
were doing)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>There is nothing in 6 that alleviates this requirement as
I see it and I await your considered input.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Again, thanks for clearing up that the GWT licensing documentation
is in error, I can make life easier for several request I have to use the
product. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Allan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Daniel Berlin [mailto:dannyb@google.com] <br>
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:40 PM<br>
To: Hardy, Allan<br>
Cc: chris@dibona.com; legal@lists.gpl-violations.org<br>
Subject: Re: Google is Violating LGPL Source Code<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Hardy, Allan <allan.hardy@lmco.com>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Yep, wrong version, went to FSF and site, old
version and went too old<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> in haste<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> The section I should have copied is 4 in LGPL 2.1
I copied it below<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> So, help me understand, is JFreeChart part of the
GWT binary<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> distribution or not?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Not current versions of GWT, AFAIK.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>It was never removed the licensing file.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> The Section 6 is only going to apply as you say if
you are NOT<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> distributing the JFreeChart binaries with GWT<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>I'm not sure why you would think this, since it is
incorrect, and this<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>is a commonly understood section.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>But since we meet "your" viewpoint of this
anyway, ...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Example 6b - if already on a customers machine and
you link in as a<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> shared library that kind of thing. But GWT
Seems to include the source,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> not make it a pre-requisite the user must install on
their own<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>This has no bearing on whether that section applies.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Are you claiming 6 a, b, c, d, or e? Only 6b
or 6e are going to get you<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> out of having to provide source.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>6b.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>I am quite aware of the requirements of the LGPL. I
contribute code to<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>a number of GNU projects, besides being a lawyer.<o:p></o:p></p>
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