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Hello,<br>
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thank you for your answer Clemens :)<br>
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<pre wrap="">Did they only change the program name (perfectly legal), or did they
remove information about the original author(s) (_very_ illegal)?
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they did not remove information about us, but our names are now written
in a context were they should not be (for example below passages of the
documentation we didn't write). Another example is this page: <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://colorsurfer.software.informer.com">http://colorsurfer.software.informer.com</a><br>
I'm not a developer of ColorSurfer!<br>
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<pre wrap="">The ISP versions are distributed by the ISPs, so it's they who are
responsible for distributing/offering the source code.</pre>
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thank you, good to know. I'm not sure the ISPs even know that the prog
is GPL.<br>
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<pre wrap="">It's possible that "First Internet Invest Ltd" does not have enough
assets to pay your expenses and damages, but it might be possible to
make the CEO personally liable (since it looks as if he did the
violation).
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does somebody know about previous legal actions against GPL violations
in germany?<br>
I must admit that we don't have a clue about legal matter, we're just
hobby programmers. But we think that the GPL should be protected, we
put much effort in this piece of free software, and what we want is
that the software remains free. The question is how far we are willing
to go in proceedings, because we are not aware of the (financial) risks
we would take. <br>
I would be satisfied if we could exert enough pressure on the company
to force them to release the sources or to abandon their program.<br>
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<pre wrap="">Try asking in a newsgroup like de.soc.recht.misc.</pre>
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I'll remember, thanks.<br>
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<br>
best regards,<br>
Pascal<br>
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cite="mid:mailman.0.1226401201.28078.legal@lists.gpl-violations.org"
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<pre wrap="">Pascal wrote:
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<pre wrap="">The programs are not really functional, because they obviously did bad
things like sed 's/bongosurfer/colorsurfer/g' on the sources, but that's
another story ;)
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Did they only change the program name (perfectly legal), or did they
remove information about the original author(s) (_very_ illegal)?
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<pre wrap="">All the sources were only for the major release of colorsurfer.
Despite our requests, we didn't receive any sources for the derived
versions sold to the ISPs mentioned above.
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<pre wrap=""><!---->
The ISP versions are distributed by the ISPs, so it's they who are
responsible for distributing/offering the source code.
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<pre wrap="">How long should we wait to get the complete sources of ColorSurfer and
all it's derivatives?
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Whatever is appropriate for this task. ;-)
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<pre wrap="">What would be the next step to take if our requests fail?
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Talk to a lawyer and sue them.
It's possible that "First Internet Invest Ltd" does not have enough
assets to pay your expenses and damages, but it might be possible to
make the CEO personally liable (since it looks as if he did the
violation). Try asking in a newsgroup like de.soc.recht.misc.
HTH
Clemens
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