Sellers of chinese tablets

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 20:12:54 +0200, Till wrote in message 
<201204082012.54437.lists at harbaum.org>:

> Hi,
> 
> Am Sonntag 08 April 2012 schrieb Jos Visser (OSP):
> > establish whether your driver is in the kernel. If it is, contact
> > the vendor in your capacity as a copyright holder and ask them to
> > comply with the license. If they don't want to or ignore you the
> > prescribed course of action is to start legal action.
> Ah, c'mon. You are suggesting that a single private person from germay
> takes legal action against a set of chinese companies? 
> 
> > Your alternative seems to be engaging in a massive negative
> > publicity campaign on EBay. I don't think that this will work
> > because I don't think you will get enough people to follow that
> > course of action, or at least not enough to make a difference. And
> > as somebody else already pointed out they will just open another
> > account and sell from there.
> To summarize your point: Taking legal action just isn't possible.
> Doing something else might not work and thus is also futile.
> 
> > The legal system cannot right every small wrong in the world. Only
> That's why i am not trying to use the legal system. That's why i
> propose to use systems they do care like ebay feedback.
> 
> > willing to commit significant resources to it. Things get a lot
> > easier if these tablets start appearing in shops in some sane
> > country because then you can sue the distributor there and that
> > takes much less time, money and effort.
> Ok. Here's the full story: I ordered a chinese tablet (a zenithink
> c71+) via ebay since i was told via some guys who usually know their
> stuff that this would come with an open kernel. I then learned that
> this updated version uses a new soc and in fact many many people
> tried to get the source for that but never received an answer. It's
> hard to tell whether the kernel sources are even available to
> zenithink or if they even only distribute reference kernels they get
> from the soc manufacturer.
> 
> I ordered from a german shop. Once i receive the tab i will verify
> that it's indeed the newer version without proper support. I will ask
> the seller for the sources even though i don't expect him to be able
> to provide it. This will likely just end up in the device being
> returned. 

.._can_ you legally return it?  You will be "distributing" the 
binaries on that thing, without being able to deliver the sources, 
if the vendor asks you to.  Software piracy, is it not? ;o)

..a viable way around this, is ask your vendor for the sources, so 
you legally can return the tab and the sources too, should he want 
them in the next 3 years. ;o)

> I can then order the older version somewhere else or forget
> about the entire thing.
> 
> The thing is all i can achieve with a german seller is that he pulls
> the tablet from his store. But i am not interested in that. I want
> the source code.
> 
> But that made wonder what would have happened if i'd ordered from
> china. An i realized that this actually may be the only way to get so
> much on someones nerves in china that they may actually change their
> mind.
> 
> Till
> 
> 


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